I feel like I just found what my personality defaults to lol, with people I know I'm an asshole because I'm afraid of making friends, with people I don't know and probably won't see again (I just noticed this btw) I'm pretty shy and I guess polite, I say "thank you" a lot and apologize for the most minor things, I barely bumped into a guy and I was apologizing like crazy haha. It feels weird to open up more to strangers in discord than my own family, but I somehow feel like this community is the one that understands me the most.
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It is very constructive to hold neutrality and an objective observation on all forms of consciousness, contact and even media.
Agreed, and for us, we find it especially useful to look for opposites and exceptions, it really helps to prompt thought. I wonder if archetypes seem like a bit of an unnecessary hassle for a lot of people, but for us we've found that they've led to some interesting thoughts that we might not have had otherwise. After all, there has to be some reason or prompt to cause one to think about something, doesn't there?
Aside from the fox's own prevalence, what about it do you intuit as fitting to your own symbology?
Before I appeared, my host had picked up a few ideas that he associated with foxes. Some of these are intelligence, curiosity, independence, activity, and also a sly, sneaky, or playful quality. There's also a warm quality to foxes (literally!) because of their magnificent fur. My host has imagined me with fox ears and a fox tail for the entire time I've been around, and it's very much about a feeling of comfort.
It is most definitely key to myself that I and my persona recall that we are each other and although hidden from us by our own beliefs in our identities, we are capable of all the same. Though it may take more practice for me to naturally wear their character as my own. But the more I empathize and feel, even feeling the way their hands or ears listen while they create art, the more I can reflect them in my own character.
I'm just quoting this verbatim, because I think it describes how my own system works as well, and I can't put it any better.
It seems you've understood fronting correctly. I learned to switch with my host and control the body myself after a few months, because the idea came to us and seemed intuitive. It's interesting that you haven't done that, but I perceive it hasn't made your experience any less deep :3(edited)
I think a lot of people's concerns are overblown.
There's a big tendency for people to assume that a tulpa is to the host what another separate human being is to the host, and they try to use our framework of regular morals and just sort of cram it into the space of things you shouldn't do inside of your head.
More often than not that just doesn't work, and when you do that you end up with these really weird and aggressive systems. Stuff like people thinking they can't ignore something they think might be a tulpa because that would be dissipation and dissipation is murder.
Figuring out ethics and really translating that into new or unique places takes a lot more than a bunch of people angrily trying to police each other on the internet, and very similarly to high quality guides, they just hasn't happened in the tulpa community.
My general outlook is, is a person acting with at least some degree of empathy, and are they ultimately seeking the best outcome for their life?
If they are, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that they are doing something wrong.
Reguile
I think a lot of people's concerns are overblown.
There's a big tendency for people to assume that a tulpa is to the host what another separate human being is to the host, and they try to use our framework of regular morals and just sort of cram it into the space of things you shouldn't do inside of your head.
More often than not that just doesn't work, and when you do that you end up with these really weird and aggressive systems. Stuff like people thinking they can't ignore something they think might be a tulpa because that would be dissipation and dissipation is murder.
Figuring out ethics and really translating that into new or unique places takes a lot more than a bunch of people angrily trying to police each other on the internet, and very similarly to high quality guides, they just hasn't happened in the tulpa community.
My general outlook is, is a person acting with at least some degree of empathy, and are they ultimately seeking the best outcome for their life?
If they are, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that they are doing something wrong.
It's not absolutely more or less ethical.
An NPC character is regarded by a person as a tool or an object or an artifact of their mind, all things which are not human, not person like, not worthy of holding a higher status.
So, you should generally expect that a person treats such things without much regard for how they feel, because they don't really have feelings, it's part of you.
However, part of the whole point of making a tulpa is to treat them and regard to them as another thinking individual. You have them created, you are in the process and let's say your experiences are going amazingly. They're responding to you, it's going well.
If you callously throw that away, that says something about you. You have to ask "why am I making that choice", or if you are dealing with someone who is dissipating a tulpa , you have to ask why would someone make that choice?
There are good reasons, but there's a lot more room for bad reasons as well compared to someone throwing out of character.
Reguile
It's not absolutely more or less ethical.
An NPC character is regarded by a person as a tool or an object or an artifact of their mind, all things which are not human, not person like, not worthy of holding a higher status.
So, you should generally expect that a person treats such things without much regard for how they feel, because they don't really have feelings, it's part of you.
However, part of the whole point of making a tulpa is to treat them and regard to them as another thinking individual. You have them created, you are in the process and let's say your experiences are going amazingly. They're responding to you, it's going well.
If you callously throw that away, that says something about you. You have to ask "why am I making that choice", or if you are dealing with someone who is dissipating a tulpa , you have to ask why would someone make that choice?
There are good reasons, but there's a lot more room for bad reasons as well compared to someone throwing out of character.
Not everyone will agree on what is a good or a bad reason either.
1:45 AM
Dissipating a tulpa is more like growing out of your old self than it is killing someone.
1:47 AM
Those police people that always say its a life long commitment you cannot undo and that kind of stuff just scare and impress newbies and can potentially make them feel really guilty if they have to do it or if it happens, which is stupid and harmful.
We personally consider dissipation to be murder past a certain point in development, but understand the reasons behind why someone might do it, and think it's situational.
2:00 AM
Like killing anything, it's more nuanced than "Killing this being is evil".
I treat my tulpas as people, yk, i converse with them as if i was conversing with someone and i usually feel as if i am
Atlas || M&M
We personally consider dissipation to be murder past a certain point in development, but understand the reasons behind why someone might do it, and think it's situational.
But again, dissipation is more like growing out of your old self than it is killing.(edited)
Atlas || M&M
We personally consider dissipation to be murder past a certain point in development, but understand the reasons behind why someone might do it, and think it's situational.
